Comments on: Transformers 2: Michael Bay Sucks My Balls http://dropoutproductions.com/blog6/2009/06/27/transformers-2-michael-bay-sucks-my-balls/ Completely useless updates on things that may or may not be related to dropout productions. Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:42:24 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: nick http://dropoutproductions.com/blog6/2009/06/27/transformers-2-michael-bay-sucks-my-balls/comment-page-1/#comment-40 nick Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:16:14 +0000 http://dropoutproductions.com/blog6/2009/06/27/transformers-2-michael-bay-sucks-my-balls/#comment-40 Hey, thanks. That was more informative than expected. I recently learn a lot from Siggy Ferstl as well, who is a digital intermediate (color correcter) for a number of films, commercials and such. One box-office movie that I loved his work in color was Die Hard 4. He basically says, in a movie, there should be different colors used to differentiate each scenes and mood instead just one color for the whole movie of for all the movies that a director makes. You could see him work in the making of Die Hard 4 DVD. Once again, thanks for your time to write back. Take care. Hey, thanks. That was more informative than expected. I recently learn a lot from Siggy Ferstl as well, who is a digital intermediate (color correcter) for a number of films, commercials and such. One box-office movie that I loved his work in color was Die Hard 4. He basically says, in a movie, there should be different colors used to differentiate each scenes and mood instead just one color for the whole movie of for all the movies that a director makes. You could see him work in the making of Die Hard 4 DVD. Once again, thanks for your time to write back. Take care.

]]> By: cbwilkins http://dropoutproductions.com/blog6/2009/06/27/transformers-2-michael-bay-sucks-my-balls/comment-page-1/#comment-39 cbwilkins Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:11:39 +0000 http://dropoutproductions.com/blog6/2009/06/27/transformers-2-michael-bay-sucks-my-balls/#comment-39 Hey, sorry to take so long in replying to you. Before you read any of this, know that I'm in no way an expert at the color stuff; I'm a writer at heart and there are probably a lot of place you could look for better advice on how to manage color in a movie. At an essential level, I don't really think there's anything that wrong with the way Bay chose to color correct this movie, but when you look at the fact that every one of his recent movies, Bad Boys 2, The Island, and both Transformers movies, have the exact same color scheme, then it becomes a problem. It's like he's saying all of the movies are interchangeable. Creating that hyper-realistic look is Ok, but it's not a good plan to box yourself into a hole where you're only capable of one style as a director. David Fincher, on the other hand, is amazing at utilizing color in his films. Benjamin Button has this very nice, subdued color scheme that makes everything feel classic and historic. Fight Club is also even better because of his outstanding color choices. He uses greens and greys and blues to create a grimy, dirty feel that the subject matter really needs. Compare that to Choke, another adaptation of a novel by Chuck Palahniuk, a movie whose color scheme helped to show an overall lack of understanding of the subject. Like Fight Club, Choke is a grimy, dirty novel that deserved to have that feel on film, but director Clark Gregg chose to give it almost a comedy color scheme, light and bright and sunny, and it ruined the feel of the film. Aside from bad choices like leaving out the persistent rain and making happy endings where none existed, Gregg's inability to control the feel of the film through color really lead to it's awfulness. While Guy Ritchie kind of has some Baylike problems in not being able to get over the gangster genre, if you look at Lock Stock And Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch their color schemes are perfect. Like Fight Club, they've got those dirty grimy tones that make everything just feel right. The vast majority of films don't really have sever color schemes, just a bit of correction here and there to make everything look movie quality. The main thing is to figure out what you're trying to say with a particular scene or with the movie as a whole, and to use the color as a modifier to help. If changing the color scheme can help you visually tell your story, then it's something worth exploring. The movie we're making right now is a comedy and doesn't really need a lot of visual cueing, so there isn't going to be a ton of color correction. It's all about what suits your needs best. Hey, sorry to take so long in replying to you. Before you read any of this, know that I’m in no way an expert at the color stuff; I’m a writer at heart and there are probably a lot of place you could look for better advice on how to manage color in a movie.

At an essential level, I don’t really think there’s anything that wrong with the way Bay chose to color correct this movie, but when you look at the fact that every one of his recent movies, Bad Boys 2, The Island, and both Transformers movies, have the exact same color scheme, then it becomes a problem. It’s like he’s saying all of the movies are interchangeable. Creating that hyper-realistic look is Ok, but it’s not a good plan to box yourself into a hole where you’re only capable of one style as a director.

David Fincher, on the other hand, is amazing at utilizing color in his films. Benjamin Button has this very nice, subdued color scheme that makes everything feel classic and historic. Fight Club is also even better because of his outstanding color choices. He uses greens and greys and blues to create a grimy, dirty feel that the subject matter really needs. Compare that to Choke, another adaptation of a novel by Chuck Palahniuk, a movie whose color scheme helped to show an overall lack of understanding of the subject. Like Fight Club, Choke is a grimy, dirty novel that deserved to have that feel on film, but director Clark Gregg chose to give it almost a comedy color scheme, light and bright and sunny, and it ruined the feel of the film. Aside from bad choices like leaving out the persistent rain and making happy endings where none existed, Gregg’s inability to control the feel of the film through color really lead to it’s awfulness.

While Guy Ritchie kind of has some Baylike problems in not being able to get over the gangster genre, if you look at Lock Stock And Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch their color schemes are perfect. Like Fight Club, they’ve got those dirty grimy tones that make everything just feel right.

The vast majority of films don’t really have sever color schemes, just a bit of correction here and there to make everything look movie quality. The main thing is to figure out what you’re trying to say with a particular scene or with the movie as a whole, and to use the color as a modifier to help. If changing the color scheme can help you visually tell your story, then it’s something worth exploring. The movie we’re making right now is a comedy and doesn’t really need a lot of visual cueing, so there isn’t going to be a ton of color correction. It’s all about what suits your needs best.

]]> By: nick http://dropoutproductions.com/blog6/2009/06/27/transformers-2-michael-bay-sucks-my-balls/comment-page-1/#comment-34 nick Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:40:05 +0000 http://dropoutproductions.com/blog6/2009/06/27/transformers-2-michael-bay-sucks-my-balls/#comment-34 Hey there, you've mentioned MB uses over-stylized color correction. I agree with you. I'd appreciate it if you could give me some sample movies that used color correction which was pleasing to your eyes. Also, please recommend what better color correction would be more suitable for Transfomers from the samples. I aspire to be a film-maker. I don't want to do the same mistakes... Thanks. Hey there, you’ve mentioned MB uses over-stylized color correction. I agree with you. I’d appreciate it if you could give me some sample movies that used color correction which was pleasing to your eyes. Also, please recommend what better color correction would be more suitable for Transfomers from the samples. I aspire to be a film-maker. I don’t want to do the same mistakes… Thanks.

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